![]() But yeah, if it's looking like anything that crazy, then we'll probably just stick to day hikes or see if we can switch to cottonwood and skip the rim. Presumably there'll be less on the trail and hopefully only the last mile or so. Right now I'm seeing a depth of 28" at the north rim which is workable with gaiters. We might end up doing snowshoes if the snow looks really bad. I've had to haul 12L myself with a full pack before and it was tough but doable (at Big Bend National Park where there was actually 0 water available on the trail, and we ended up going through our full supply). ![]() Oh yeah definitely not planning to, but prepared as in worst case if everything is dry and there's no snow on the north rim I am physically capable of toughing it out with that much weight. I will definitely PM you if I have any more questions in the lead-up! We'll be able to get up super early, park at the backcountry info center, and head straight down Bright Angel without having to wait for the first shuttle, since we'll probably be trying to hit the trail no later than 5am to allow for 12 hours at ~2mph with breaks. We're planning to camp the night before our hike on one of the US Forest Service fire roads a few miles south of the South Entrance. We're doing Bright Angel down and South Kaibab back up, so Day 1 ends up being about 3 miles longer and we really want to make it to the North Rim in time for sunset from Bright Angel Point. Planning on Ribbon Falls time permitting, probably on day 2 since we won't be as concerned about pace/schedule. I'll check availability the week of and the afternoon prior to our hike to finalize water plans. ![]() I was prepared to carry an extra 6L dromedary bladder on the outside of my pack (in addition to us each carrying 6L base capacity) but I'd rather avoid carrying 20+ pounds of just water if possible. Good to know on water, that was one of my biggest concerns. We will definitely be bringing spikes and poles, potentially gaiters as well if there's a possibility of deep snow on the north rim since we'll be camping up there. Thanks for all the info! Much appreciated. If you’re hiking this time of year, the water WON’T be on at the rest houses and you might need micro spikes the last mile or so. If the water is on at the rest houses, don’t carry more water than you need and drink what you need at the rest houses. And if you’re going in the summer time, I’d start as early as possible.like 3-4 am so that the trail is in the shade as long as possible. The last couple miles can really suck (pun intended) I strongly suggest keeping your pack weight as light as possible, and using trekking poles. Remember though, you’re going from roughly 2500 ft in elevation to 7000 ft. So I’d plan for minimum 7.5 hours just to be sure. So that is an additional 3 hours or so including rest. If you rest at Indian Garden and then start your hike out to the top, it should take roughly 40-50 minutes to reach each of the rest houses. ![]() Depending on your pack weight (let’s assume no more than 30 pounds- anymore than that and you’re doing it terribly wrong) someone in reasonable shape should be able to get to Indian Garden from BACG in 3 to 3.5 hours with minimal breaks. ![]()
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